Soothing Shrimp

Mr. F, totally makes sense in theory!

@plamski Would the blue edge on the kk make them shadows?

Are you at liberty to say what you are using it for?

Goldens can have a yellowish shell pigment, while snows have whitish.

Some people keep crs in 7+ successfully. Dazalea is one.

This may help more?

http://www.harmonyglass.com/bevelsClearCircles.shtml

http://www.behrenbergglass.com/flat-glass/flat-clear-1-8-glass-ds/5-round-clear-flat-1-8/

This may help: http://www.instructables.com/id/Remove-Silver-Backing-from-a-Mirror-To-clear-glas/?ALLSTEPS

Goldens are pretty common. 

Crystals throw them.  They used to be bred to crs for higher grade patterns.  When pure red lines came in, demand for goldens plummeted. 

Now you can find goldens for $2-3 each.

Care is the same as crs.  They may be used to your params now.

Euryth, going by phenotype, you have what looks like us "old timers" used to call a Grade G bee.

Once, they were the new thing. People wanted to selectively breed lines of them to increase pigment color.

Then they dropped out of fad, and goldens (as they are now called) became disposable.

The last person I've heard of selectively breeding them called hers Cheeto because they became so orange.  I think she lost interest in continuing her line years ago.

Here's  pic of a yellowish golden:

9 hours ago, Euryth said:

@Soothing Shrimp I haven't seen very many convincing or good photos of Painted Fire Yellows, but would you happen to know if our shrimp could possibly be a match? Is it safe to rule out these shrimp as possible Golden Bee Shrimp? 

Well, if PFY exists as a strain it is a well guarded secret.  I've seen sports (one offs) but not consistancy. My Sunshine project was the closest I found over years of searching...and that died out.

Mayphly or Shrimpscales may be better to ask about goldens.

There is an orange bee shrimp.  You can check to see if yours resemble this guy's colony.

Have a ways to go until they are a strain, Vpier.  But I'll love the challenge getting there. ;-)

Thanks, Steve. :-)

Greenteam and I will both be working with your blue Sulawesi to ensure your shrimp continue on. :-)

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LOL  Get a pitcher of water, some walnut substrate, your test kits- and let us know Wygglz. ;-)

Caught up with your journal since May.  Wonderful progress, and I too learned more about shrimp anatomy!

Interesting question.  Crushed walnut shell substrate has been used for years in the pet community.  Wonder what would happen in water?

Leaves and a pellet of snowflake should be fine. :-)

Many things we do after a challenge is change too many things too fast.

You already did a water change. Ph is fine. I'd suggest just treating it normally for a week and see if things slowly come back to normal.

8 hours ago, Mr. F said:

Yeah, she changes color from an almost snowball look to a light yellow. She also breeds out almost exclusively Sakura/fire reds in a tank with one other yellow (but a female) and several cherry culls, which is pretty cool.

Wow! Interesting for sure. I wonder if you have a yellow gene on a different location that is co-dom or dom over red? 

Grrrrrr... Color research needs to be done in neos!

Very nice. :-)

I see what you are saying.  The yellow isn't as intense.  I was hoping you had one leaning toward white pigmentation. Still, nice shrimp you have there. :-)

Would you please post a pic of your white yellow neo? :-)

Some orange neos are just orange tissue, some are more pigmented on the shell- but the color wouldn't stop near the bottom like that. 

If the others don't match that one, then Mr. F may be correct in the assumption the others are neos- especially since you said the store mixes.  Need better photos to know for sure.

LOL  You were smarter than I, my friend. ;-)

1 hour ago, Mr. F said:

Those are goldenback yellows or 24K yellows depending on who you asks

.. and also called neons from years ago.  heh  I give you that one of the shrimp has a similar phenotype, however let's not forget other shrimp can have back stripes too.  A side view would be helpful to look at.

"Look at those rostrum. The full white looking one does look card but I'm guessing neo based on body shape over card because color coverage! "

I respectfully disagree.  Neos are longer, while cards are more compact. Taking your theory that these are yellows, there are no yellow strains for neos being sold that has that saturation of pigment.  If it is white, that rules out neos as well since a white strain of neo does not exist yet.  The pigment also is not formed in this shrimp as would be in neos.  Neos have horizontal lines of color that run the length of the body and become wider through selective breeding until filled in. (Think sakura.) This shrimp has thinner pigment near the underside.  IMO it is also unlikely this was an extremely wide racing stripe.

I'm also making the assumption that the store received this tank of shrimp from one source.  If that is the case, chances are the shrimp would not have been mixed- but the same type.

But who knows? You may be correct. :-)