Soothing Shrimp Posted June 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 Thanks. I should be able to sell some next year. I've gone through hell and back creating that strain! heh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctaylor3737 Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 Awesome! What do you do with excess shrimp? One would think eventually tanks would over run. -Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted June 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 The offspring from a couple generations back are often sold so I can maintain my shrimp/tanks. My Nessies are still off limits because I'm trying for numbers so I can cull for better quality soon. For them, I just need as many as possible. They throw anywhere from low grade green cherries to high grade painted dark green. There are a couple different strains of green neos currently being introduced by other people, some not even breeding true. BUT as far as I know- I'm the only one in the world who has developed a strain like this with green pigment and 99.9% true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MABJ Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 Wowzers. Your blue/greens have come a LONG way since I last set eyes on them. Congrats buddy they're fantastic. Soothing Shrimp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00camaro16 Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 I want a aqua blue neo, your nessies seems to have somewhat of that color. Yup pretty sure I want the number 1 spot once you start selling them lol. Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimpo Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 Looking good man, I hope you still have me on the waiting list for the Nessies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metageologist Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 Very nice Have a gniess day. -Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted June 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 Thanks folks. It is SO nice to talk to people who appreciate the hard work put into my projects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 Soothing, No plants in your tank, no driftwood ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted June 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 Simple wimple, Louie. Just moss in the right back corner and a sponge filter in the left back corner. Anything else gets in the way of selectively breeding my project shrimp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryboy12484 Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 That how im doing my shrimp tanks from now on... moss and wood.. keep it simple. ... I stll plant my fish tanks though Derek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted June 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 I think a planted tank looks awesome, but I can't find the correct shrimp I may need through plants- or I make a wreck trying to chase them through a jungle to get a specific one. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryboy12484 Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 I hate catching my fish in a planted tank.... its always a mess... I took some tetras out of my 29 gal and by the time I was done there were plants all over the floor and I was screaming at the fish and threatening them with the toilet lol Derek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00camaro16 Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 Yea, I'm not looking forward to having to catch all my shrimp, maybe a few babies by then, and 7 Ottos when I transfer everything to the 15 gallon... and now with the tank sale coming up... Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk ctaylor3737 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chibikaie Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 I think color varieties of marmorkrebs would be awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted June 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 I think color varieties of marmorkrebs would be awesome. I just have to figure out the direction to go. Whether to increase the white spots or go for lighter and lighter color to make a ghost speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MABJ Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 Bryce do you work at all with Bloody Mary's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted June 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 I have my first set of Bloody Mary's now. Still waiting for berries. Pika and ctaylor3737 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MABJ Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 Very cool I'll wait for your assessment. You know I trust your word as law as far as neos go lol. ctaylor3737 and Soothing Shrimp 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctaylor3737 Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 Yea, I'm not looking forward to having to catch all my shrimp, maybe a few babies by then, and 7 Ottos when I transfer everything to the 15 gallon... and now with the tank sale coming up... Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk Lol multiple tanks is easier to justify when the tsnk is only 20$ lol. I think they do it just to sell,tanks to serious hobbyists. they know we won't pay full price!-Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted June 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 The larger tank someone buys, the more in items they have to purchase. I think they sell the tanks as a loss leader. makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebuddha Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Soothing, this thread was a great read! I just love your sapphires!I am a little surprised that you keep all of your (different grade) nessies in the same tank. I understand your breeding for numbers over color quality, but I have read that when kept together like that, neos typically revert to the lower grade. Have you found that to be true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted July 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Glad you are enjoying the thread. Hopefully it is inspiring you as well! Well, to be honest, I do cull some in that tank- but only the absolute worst that show very little green at all. Almost 100% of the culls are males. Do I find they revert back to the lowest form? Not really. Let me use this analogy: Someone has a red cherry shrimp colony. Avg poor quality, but likes his colony very much. He wants to bump up his color a bit on his shrimp though, so he buys some pfr and places them in to breed with his colony. The colony is not going to turn pfr. however the "color" added will help the colony bump up to sakura- and if lucky a couple fire reds. When he has enough of the higher quality, he can separate them and work from there. Now take the analogy above, and apply it to my Nessies, and you see what I'm doing. heh This color of Nessie is stable. After a zillion years, they are throwing 99.9% green. It is the grade of color that is unstable now. So knowing that, why not just put the highest grades together? Painteds do not necessarily equal painteds. Also, if I were to take all the painteds (probably less than 10 in total), and place them together- a tragedy may wipe them all out. In this colony breeding, not only am I slowly creating more painteds, but increasing general color and all the while the gene pool is still wide enough to keep vigor. Plus, if anyone decides on owning Nessies next August, the genes and modifiers allow random PAINTED Nessies to still pop up. You are correct though, that very soon- I'll have enough to separate a few out and concentrate on grades. My absolute favorite is the Fire Nessie. See right through the green shell and through the body. Looks very stained glass window. However, I know many people like the thicker concentration of color. Painted Nessies -you cannot see through the color. The Painted Nessies are so dark they look blackish unless under high light or flash. Some people prefer that though. *shrugs* Different likes for different people. Sakuras can be Fire Sakura or Painted Sakura. So here is what I have found so far: The Golden Nessie- the body is orangish/gold while green hood or stripes are on the shell. A two colored shrimp. I think a line of Golden Hooded Nessies would look cool, but others would have to work on that. heh Cherry Nessies Sakura Fire Nessie Fire Nessie Sakura Painted Nessie Painted Nessie As much as I would love to devote all my effort to Nessies and grades, I think it would be very unfair (and selfish) in the shrimping world to keep this new var for myself. So despite how many I have, I'll be releasing a very limited number Aug 2015. Hobbyists can either leave them to breed randomly for a variety of qualities in their tanks, or selectively breed them for the quality they desire. --- You know what's funny though? It doesn't matter how many years working on this strain, how many generations it has taken to breed them true, how many dollars put into developing them, how much blood and sweat put into them, and how many tears with trials-set backs- and tragedies with them. When offered, people will still write and flame that they are too expensive for neos. heh As I tell people who want to get into selective breeding, this is the thankless part of the hobby. You will work for years and spend money on a project that may not work out. You will be accused of lying, and your final product will be "counterfeited." YOU will be forgotten while your product may live on, the name changed, or be lost due to fad or fashion. In the end, you have only your reflection to turn to and ask- Is it worth it? Am I proud of what I have done? Am I honest? And the only way you will find the strength to continue what you love to do is if you can look yourself in your reflection's eye and say, "Yes!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryboy12484 Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Ok so I need to have an empty tank next August. .. seriously put me on the list buddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted July 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Some have tried to get me to export out of the country- which I won't do at this time. Nothing like getting overseas people anxious to get US shrimp. LOL Maybe I *should* start a list....I'd want no deposit, though, in case something unforeseen happens. What's everybody's thoughts on this? Fair? Unfair? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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