Dendrobatez Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 I got some 20g longs at the last $1 per gallon sale and other odds and ends laying around so I figured I would try something and turn the end 10-15% into the filter because I love canister filters but hate having them next to the tank and get annoyed trying to do maintenance on them. Here's some pics, this is just a first run, already finding things I would like to change for the next tank Using miracle gro organic soil with laterite capped with some finer gravel and then UP shrimp sand The undergravel I saw someone else do I think on here I used lava rock I think they used matrix 1st chamber is run by a hydroponic 160gph hydroponic pump with k1 2nd is more lava rock topped with a filter pad 3rd is not 100% decided yet, I think I'm going to throw a couple sponges on there with the heater and any kind of chemical filtration I chose later on The shelves I got off home depot for $60? Was about to go get some plywood for reinforcement until I saw that they didn't bow, needs another shelve on each unit for misc supplies I think and had to bolt it to the wall for stability Will need to be an airstone probably because with this set up there is little surface agitation, right in front of the pump in the tank portion would be a good spot to promote more water movement there. I'll be buying some lights next week so no plants for a little bit Edwardnah, Johnnydok, CharlesWex and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r45t4m4n Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 That looks really cool. Got a link to those shelves on the home depot site? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dendrobatez Posted November 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 http://m.homedepot.com/p/Husky-4-Shelf-36-in-W-x-72-in-H-x-18-in-D-Silver-Steel-Storage-Shelving-Unit-MR361872W4/204677794?cm_mmc=shopping-_-googleads-_-pla-_-204677794&ci_sku=204677794&ci_gpa=pla&ci_src=17588969&gclid=Cj0KEQiA-uWjBRChu9ie05m5ipgBEiQAuHIuK9zImG8Q6s6h2FiA1_Dadm2df0tXgm9c7l46EEcNvQQaApTv8P8HAQ Once I move in a few months I'm going to try and replace the wire rack with plywood the whole way across, should be able to fit 2-20g longs and a 10 on each shelf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dendrobatez Posted November 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Filled with water and doing 50% water changes everyday, tannins are slowly going away K1 is swirling around pretty nicely Soothing Shrimp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dendrobatez Posted December 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 :Update: Got some of the lights, 10w L.E.D. floodlights. Used them in a 10g and was surprised by the plant growth. The cable does actually run through the PVC pipe and out the bottom to the outlet Sorry about all the floatys, I just threw some clippings in there from other tanks until other plants come in the mail Siliconed this piece of glass in place to raise the outflow level so it falls slightly Not sure if I need more light yet or not, I still have 2 more lights I can use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dendrobatez Posted December 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Got a few plants from Han, the java won't stay where it is I think I'm going to take it and make a wall out of it to go on the "filter wall" or the back glass Apperently had a few hitchhikers on the java, a couple blue pearl shrimp. Those shrimp are kind of an oddity, I can't ever seem to get any color out of them unless there is a lot of shade and cover in their tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjohnson1253 Posted December 20, 2014 Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 you should not plant the java fern in the soil attach it to a rough rock like lava or driftwood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dendrobatez Posted December 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 Thanks for the advice, I'm thinking about attaching it to some of the cholla I have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dendrobatez Posted January 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 One of thy new inhabitants, changed the plants around and added some more I'll post some more pics later today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddles Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 How does that filter work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dendrobatez Posted January 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 It all starts at the PVC at the bottom of the tank, the inside of the PVC "ring" has holes in it and the ring is filled with lava rock for bacterial growth. -The water is sucked through the lava into the PVC and goes to the hydroponic pump -The pump blasts the water through the k1 and goes over the glass barrier into the next where there's lava rock. This chamber also has an air stone to create a better circulation of the k1 and hopefully oxygenate the water to help support more beneficial bacteria -It flows down through the lava catching a lot of the particles where they actually break down fairly well and then to the next final chamber -The final chamber has all my filter pads for polishing, purigen, chemi-pure elite, and heater - the water flows out the top of this chamber back into the tank It's kind of like a built in sump I guess, I just want to make sure it can hold a high population of shrimp no problem + it is considerably cheaper than buying a decent canister filter and almost no maintenance. Its not a bad trade off either, it only takes up about 6-7% of the tank and leaves everything but the air pump contained in the tank itself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dendrobatez Posted January 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Cycle finished, now the sand is buffering to 6.2-6.3 ph Gh is 5 Kh is 1Changed the plants around a bit, added some hair grass that's just comin back for me and starting to grow, the java fern is now mounted to cholla - it seemed to be fine just in the shrimp sand I think it's loose enough that the roots are ok.Got 10 blue bolts in there now, they are very active Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dendrobatez Posted January 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Floaters are multiplying pretty well, the roots on the frogbit are a bit annoying though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasshalffull Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Looks good plantfreek 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Shrimpscales Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 How are you going to clean this filter without making a mess in your tank? Or is the whole system supposed to be maintenance free? You are very creative to come up with something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dendrobatez Posted January 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 So far not much maintenance, but in the future to clean the compartment with the pump I just have to turn it off and empty the k1 and I don't have a problem with the water flowing back through the pvc For the other 2 as long as I lower the water level by about an inch they are essentially isolated from the rest of the tank and I can empty everything water and all without getting the aquarium messy Ill try and get a better pic of the filter so you guys can see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h4n Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Looking good! you should definitely make a moss wall and add it to the glass on your "built in sump" that would look cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dendrobatez Posted January 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 Thanks! I've got the moss growing out in another tank at the moment actually, hopefully it'll be done in a month or so I should have another order coming your way in the next few days Han :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dendrobatez Posted January 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 Here's a (bad) pic of the "sump". I think it shows the flow of water fairly well. Something I'd like to change is the third chamber with the filter pads. I'm currently searching for maybe so coarse to fine thick foam pads or sponges that I could cut to fit in a little better. At any rate the shrimp seem to be doing well, found a berried blue bolt in there this morning, hopefully that goes well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dendrobatez Posted January 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 I'm going to try and start another 2-20g longs over the week end, get them all siliconed in. I'm thinking about splitting one into 2 connected tanks, one for selective breeding and the second side for raising the f1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dendrobatez Posted February 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Got a 20g long plumbed with an overflow into another 20g tank. Both will be split for easier selective breeding. The Blue Bolt tank growing in, the hairgrass is taking hold very well. I love how the duckweed roots look just below the water surface Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dendrobatez Posted February 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 The hydroponic pump in the bottom tank will get boxed in with glass today and return the water to the top tank. Also have some lexan sheets around that I would like to make into breeder boxes, unsure on how to get them to hang onto the tank though, still thinking about it. Maybe If I could find some good stainless steel hooks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dendrobatez Posted February 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 Got pretty much everything ready for the tank but hit a wall, the substrate I'm going to use was left at my door and gone by the time I got home. So I'll have to wait a few more days to finish.Installed a ball valveThe divider turned into a double wall for the filter pads and lava rock for lots of bio media, ignore the tape I was just installing a couple braces just in caseOutflow room for pads, purigen, carbon, whatever I needDrains into a corner which is full of k1 and will have an airstone for maximum circulation - drain water pushes it down while the air throws it back to the topThe divider is a single pane here, everything has ss mesh from Han. That stuff is awesome! There is a double wall in front of the pump, 1 on the outside you can see with the mesh to allow water through and then another one about an in inside that is taller that will keep the water from dropping below a certain level. I just want a large surface area for the water to be able to move through to keep the mesh from clogging so easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenteam Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 Someone stole your package from your front door? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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