nthungryan1 Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 i have some crs ss but want crs low grade. how can down grade crs -> scr. i think use scr x crs grade s to down grade. someone help me. thanks all Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesHe Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 SCR is not about pattern, it's about the color. low grade CRS is NOT SCR. thekonexperiment 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nthungryan1 Posted August 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 thanks james aquatics Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted August 7, 2015 Report Share Posted August 7, 2015 Just for clarification, super reds indeed are not low grade crs. Super reds were bred in reverse. A nice solid grade of crs was taken, and bred to increase the red, while minimizing the white. (Actually two people came out with reds at the same time and an argument ensued. But that's another story.) While it is true that low grade crs have large coverage of red, the density of pigment often is not the best. JamesHe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishlover Posted August 7, 2015 Report Share Posted August 7, 2015 Just for clarification, super reds indeed are not low grade crs. Super reds were bred in reverse. A nice solid grade of crs was taken, and bred to increase the red, while minimizing the white. (Actually two people came out with reds at the same time and an argument ensured. But that's another story.) While it is true that low grade crs have large coverage of red, the density of pigment often is not the best. From what you had just explained. Super Red should be CRS with soild full red body, no white. And the red should be soild and intense. Am I correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted August 7, 2015 Report Share Posted August 7, 2015 Well, kinda. True supers are bred from solid pigments of crs. Usually some white still remains around the face, and sometimes a thin stripe or two on the back. There's even been arguments on whether white thin stripes should be bred for or eliminated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted August 7, 2015 Report Share Posted August 7, 2015 Here's an example of a super crystal red. Cappie49, Shrimpie and JamesHe 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted August 7, 2015 Report Share Posted August 7, 2015 Here's a quick guide to grading scr: http://www.britishreds.co.uk/super-crystal-red-grading/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Crown Aquatic Trade Posted August 7, 2015 Report Share Posted August 7, 2015 I actually have a small colony going, this is the only one I was able to get a picture of since they like to stay in the back of the tank but we have a few that have better coloration than this one. Like everyone pointed out it require quite a bit of selective breeding for more red instead of white. mbenjamin16 and Soothing Shrimp 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted August 8, 2015 Report Share Posted August 8, 2015 I've been trying to achieve a similer look by breeding low grades. Much better now, but very slow going. Most are missing the white face markings. mbenjamin16 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilguppy Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 What kind of plants is that where scar sitting on ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 I'm hoping a person here who is into aquatic plants may have the answer for ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty703 Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 its almost hard to tell that super red crystal from a red wine! Also the one pictured by Blue Crown looks more like a fancy red tibee to me than CRS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayphly Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 What kind of plants is that where scar sitting on ??looks like a marimo ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h4n Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 That's what I think also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilguppy Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 Thank you very much :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensgate Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Some of my super reds...slowly building the colony back up of C grades and super reds, had a mishap using No Planaria that wiped out a lot of my breeding group (over 20 adults, no telling how many juvies and babies...sigh). I have some C grade culls for sale right now, culls meaning they have too much white to keep in my C grade tank. My Cull tank is producing more C grades than anything and their isn't a C grade in that tank! Got a couple of Super red babies I've spotted, just gotta get them to adulthood to move back into the main tank. mayphly, ohmiko and mbenjamin16 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishlover Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 its almost hard to tell that super red crystal from a red wine! Also the one pictured by Blue Crown looks more like a fancy red tibee to me than CRS. Some of my super reds...slowly building the colony back up of C grades and super reds, had a mishap using No Planaria that wiped out a lot of my breeding group (over 20 adults, no telling how many juvies and babies...sigh). I have some C grade culls for sale right now, culls meaning they have too much white to keep in my C grade tank. My Cull tank is producing more C grades than anything and their isn't a C grade in that tank! Got a couple of Super red babies I've spotted, just gotta get them to adulthood to move back into the main tank. Do your Super Red CRS have tiger gene it them? It looks to me it is next to impossible to obtain pure red CRS by just selective breeding of CRS alone. I am guessing the additon of tiger gene, such as red tiger, is need to wipe out the white...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensgate Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 No, no tiger in mine at all. Mine are all CRS, never been mixed with anything. I can tell you environment plays a big part in the amount of white. fishlover 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishlover Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 No, no tiger in mine at all. Mine are all CRS, never been mixed with anything. I can tell you environment plays a big part in the amount of white. That means you are picking out those with less white to breed for generations in order the full red bodies? Wondering how many generations will it take....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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