capt.dru Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 I have developed a hydra and planeria problem in my 3 gal shrimp tank. What is the best way to get rid of them? Thanks. Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wygglz Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 Fenbendazole worked for our hydra and I think works for planaria as well. I'm sure someone else will chime in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revaria Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 (edited) I have the start of a planaria problem myself, from what I saw Fenbendazole is usually recommended. Another option I found was to use No-Planaria by Genchem, but its effectiveness is questionable and I believe it is somewhat hard to procure in the U.S, Ebay has one for 17 dollars free shipping from California. I also found this old thread from this site Edited April 7, 2016 by Revaria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 Yeah. there's a difference between fishbenzadole and panacur. Fishben is pure and strong! If in the wrong dose, deadly. Panacur is a lot easier to work with. EricM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oem Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 I did some research (stop laughing Soothing) and can't find how these guys show up in an established tank. Tons of research info on habitat and how to dispatch these critters. Do they live in the gut of fish/shrimp and manifest when conditions are right? ShrimpP and stevee22 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevee22 Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 I did some research (stop laughing Soothing) and can't find how these guys show up in an established tank. Tons of research info on habitat and how to dispatch these critters. Do they live in the gut of fish/shrimp and manifest when conditions are right? I have often wondered about that myself, where do the little buggers come from!! Nuthatch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShrimpP Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 Same here. I don't know exactly how any of the common (shrimp) aquarium pests, copepods, planaria, hydra, detritus worms, seed shrimp, scuds, etc., just seem to develop out of thin air (water). I know many of them are from overfeeding, but what?, do they just grow from little mIcro-organisms (bacteria) into the visible mAcro-organisms we see with our naked eyes? Do flies or other insects lay eggs in/on our aquariums (I do know these are explanations for some "pests")? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dluxeshrimps Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 that's like asking what came 1st the egg or the chicken. it just develops from a micro organism to something more visible to the naked eye within the substrate. EricM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jynn Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 I just assume everything comes from plants. EricM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETAquarium Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 I used No-Planaria from Genchem in the past. Honestly though you need to find the root of the problem, planaria specifically can proliferate easier if you are over feeding your shrimp, especially in a 3g aquarium. NickAus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 According to the water company, "Planaria or their larvae are present in the water supply... they get to our taps. In the right conditions, they will grow. " ibebian, Vpier and ShrimpP 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt.dru Posted April 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 I used No-Planaria from Genchem in the past. Honestly though you need to find the root of the problem, planaria specifically can proliferate easier if you are over feeding your shrimp, especially in a 3g aquarium. The planaria was caused from over feeding, still scratching my head with the hydra though. Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackhead Johny Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Soothing Shrimp said: According to the water company, "Planaria or their larvae are present in the water supply... they get to our taps. In the right conditions, they will grow. " Same with daphnia and copapods? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vpier Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 Most aquatic hitch hikers come from plants or water you added from another source like a breeders or LFS. Like Soothing said sometimes planaria larvae can get through your local water company. My opinion is plants are the number source. I will put new plants in a bucket for a couple of days and treat them with Fenbendazole (dog de-wormer). I think most shrimpers have these hitch hikers including all different kinds of other worms and not know it until an outbreak happens, most of these outbreaks occur when feeding to much. EricM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 and without any predators such as fish these pests are more visible. Soothing Shrimp and Vpier 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vpier Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 1 minute ago, bostoneric said: and without any predators such as fish these pests are more visible. Bingo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibebian Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 and without any predators such as fish these pests are more visible. Do we know that planaria and similar are common things that fish eat? I luckily have not dealt with this problem (and hopefully never will) although I've seen it at Neptune Aquatics in San Jose, and they def look gross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oem Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 8 hours ago, Soothing Shrimp said: According to the water company, "Planaria or their larvae are present in the water supply... they get to our taps. In the right conditions, they will grow. " So the chlorine is not a high enough concentration to kill these buggers ? Makes you wonder about other pathogens. I'm guessing then that they are coming in on plant material if using R/O water. Thanks Folks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wygglz Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 10 hours ago, Soothing Shrimp said: According to the water company, "Planaria or their larvae are present in the water supply... they get to our taps. In the right conditions, they will grow. " Ummm...ewwwwwww.... svetilda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackhead Johny Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 2 hours ago, oem said: So the chlorine is not a high enough concentration to kill these buggers ? Makes you wonder about other pathogens. I'm guessing then that they are coming in on plant material if using R/O water. Thanks Folks I would guess that means they have a cyst stage. Many critter's cyst stages are really hard to kill. oem and Soothing Shrimp 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt.dru Posted April 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Just dosed my 3gal with fenbendazole. The hydra instantly shriveled up and died. Haven't seen the planeria yet. They must be under the substrate. Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 They'll start heading to the top of the tank. Wc and dose again of needed after 3 days. Keep your tank light off the first day. It photodegrades with light. capt.dru and Vpier 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt.dru Posted April 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Here is what i used to make this. I used 1, 1gram packet of fenbendazole mixed with 200ml of hot dechlorinated tap water. Hot water is the key to dissolve most of it. Shake as long as you can. Here are the following dosages: 20ml=10gal 15ml= 7.5gal 10ml=5gal 7ml=3.5gal 5ml=2.5gal This should make things easier for dosing and is a safe dosage for your shrimp. Mine are all still alive and well. Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk Soothing Shrimp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clansman Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Treated 4 of my tanks last September with fenbendazole , first tank I noticed hydra and already had planaria, the hydra came in on wood and plants from a shrimpkeepers giving up , In the treated tanks I never lost a single shrimp, hydra died within 6 hours , planaria took a second treatment , 7 months on there is no sign of a single planaria which is a pleasant surprise or hydra , this tank has Taiwan bees and mishlings and breeds fantastic and has well over 200 shrimp all sizes , I feed baby food almost every day , and I don't subscribe to the caused by overfeeding , yes regular feeding for your babies will see planaria populate but your Taiwan bee baby survival rate will increase, this tank has been running 16 months, since I treated the other tanks have been reset with new active soil and there are some planari but very small , only a very little new moss has been added or could they be in the soil, water is ro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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