Morty Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 2 minutes ago, Rivergardennursery said: Thank You. Now who carries No Planaria in the US? Can't speak to US, but everyone here in Canada carries it pretty much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 The reason none of us sellers carry it is because the USA distributor will not sell Genchem products to online retailers. Brick and Mortar only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivergardennursery Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 29 minutes ago, bostoneric said: The reason none of us sellers carry it is because the USA distributor will not sell Genchem products to online retailers. Brick and Mortar only. Oh... That is an issue as the Brick and Mortars are so very few now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuthatch Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Find a brick-and-mortar with a website? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 if they have a website they sell products through, distributor will say no. I even had my LFS with no site contact them with not much luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brocknorman Posted June 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Well it has been over 24 hours, and I can't seem to find any Planaria (even with how hard I look around) if I see any. I'll let you guys know. As of now, I'm not going to buy No Planaria, because I don't see any. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimp Life Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 1 hour ago, brocknorman said: Well it has been over 24 hours, and I can't seem to find any Planaria (even with how hard I look around) if I see any. I'll let you guys know. As of now, I'm not going to buy No Planaria, because I don't see any. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk WHen you see one, unfortunately - there is likely alot more in the tank. They will reproduce so I don't think there is any other way then to treat the tank. I bought mine here, it arrived within a week- http://www.ebay.com/itm/252222256849?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Just make sure you do some small water changes after the dosing to prevent an ammonia spike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
35ppt Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 here's where I got some a while ago http://greenleafaquariums.com/products/no-planaria-worm-disinfectant.html I think traps are good for assessing if you have an issue. Also putting a trap food item down does a similar thing. Yes, they will be somewhat effective in removal, but you do need to address the cause and use the chemical for 100% removal. I did research No Planaria a lot before using; I found a lot of very old posts (many many years old) about people using it and having issues, I think it was more of an interaction with fertilizers. For me, I removed a subset of my population (neos) to a temporary tank and dosed the tank. No losses. Be sure to look at pics of rhabdoceola worms, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 I've never had any problems using it in the past, even used it in our high grade PRL tanks with no issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clansman Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 I don't agree that chemical treatments are not worth the risk , if used in a proper controlled method with drugs that are manufactured to strict control they can be very valuable , there's very little natural about keeping shrimp in aquariums , re my above post using fenbendazole this tank was treated last September and has produced over 200 babies indeed in the last month I have taken out over 60'taiwan bees including the 28 juvies in the photo. I learned 25 years ago the value of correct medication , I had a semi commercial discus breeding set up mostly German stock I bred many batches but always about 4 weeks they went dark and gasped at the surface and died, I tried all the over the counter meds to no avail so I contacted a European expert of fish health called Untergasser. He advised I buy a basic microscope and dissect the gills they were heaving with Gill flukes , I followed his advice and treated with flubenol IE a pig wormer and in the next few years successfully raised over 6000 discus mostly with the eggs removed from parents , today this is common practice . since treating my tanks I am planaria free but I will always dip plants even in breeder keeper issue 3 the writer states fenbendazole is safe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brocknorman Posted June 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Ok, I will order no Planaria today. Whenever it gets here, I will put my 8 Taiwan bees into my marine land breeder box. And I will follow the directions on the no Planaria very strictly. I have one question though, when I do the water changes, should I vacuumed the substrate, or just suck out and put in new water. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
35ppt Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 vacuum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuri Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 2 hours ago, brocknorman said: Ok, I will order no Planaria today. Whenever it gets here, I will put my 8 Taiwan bees into my marine land breeder box. And I will follow the directions on the no Planaria very strictly. I have one question though, when I do the water changes, should I vacuumed the substrate, or just suck out and put in new water. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Lmao i had answered this...... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brocknorman Posted June 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Oops just saw your message where u answered it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brocknorman Posted July 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 Hello again, so it's has been 3 weeks or so, and I haven't noticed any Planaria... Until this morning. I woke up and saw about 10 tiny Planaria. I am going to start the No-Planaria treatment, but was wondering, would would be the best way to remove my shrimp from their tank? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimp Life Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 you can treat the tank and leave the shrimp in the tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackhead Johny Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 My No Planaria showed up. However it took so long that it appear there are none left in the tank. I put a flag fish in there just to see if it would eat them. It did. I'm not sure whether to put it back in teh 15 with the other 2 flags and then treat the 7 gal in prep for shrimp or just remove it when i order shrimp. I have the No Planaria but do not see any to kill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimp Life Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 usually there are still baby planaria that can hide in the substrate. GOod thing you have the no planaria just incase you need it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolem Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 Help me please!!!! I gonna usefor firts time no-planaria in one of my tanks . Its a 55 gallons so how much i have to dose the tank? Im scare to over dose and kill my shrimps . The instructions said 1 spoon per 50 liters so 50 gallons its aroun 189 liter , that's mind i have put 3 spoons the firts day ? And another question i have to take of the carbon from my filter ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clansman Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 On 15 June 2016 at 2:34 PM, jifstone said: You can avoid medication completely by catching all shrimps and moving them to somewhere else. You won't have any planaria unless you somehow get egg capsule hitchhiking on the shrimps. Destroy the tank and restart. If you want to keep plants and decor, you can dip them and quarantine them in a bucket or whatever before placing it in other tanks. I think that it's probably the best option if you want to avoid possible deaths. As I understand it, planaria medications are basically poisonous substance and you're dosing just enough to kill planaria but not shrimps. You definitely have some risk of losing shrimps if you choose to go with medication route. e: you can move shrimps to temporary container and medicate the tank then move shrimp back in it. Probably the easiest and safest way to do it. Sorry to disagree re chemical use many keeper breeders have used fenbendazole very successfully , I treated 4 tanks for planaria 11 months ago never lost a single shrimp including many babies from days old upwards , filters bacteria was unaffected and I have been free of planaria since and my shrimp,are breeding fantastic all after using fenbendazole , yes chemicals should not be used without thought but fear of them is also not always warrented Mr. F 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clansman Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 I keep reading no planaria is a natural product and it implies it's safe , poisonous mushrooms are a natural product, there has been deaths using no planaria that's why i use fenbendazole , it's Also easily available in pet stores as dog workers ie panacur and it's cheaper Mr. F 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 Would bleach dipping plants prevent Planaria from transfering from tank to tank? What would be the recommended bleach:water ratio? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanSan Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 IME, I have used fenbendazole twice. I grinded up the powder finely with a mortar and pestle and then added the recommended dose twice on days 1 and 3 and did not have any issues afterward. 15 hours ago, Stitch said: Would bleach dipping plants prevent Planaria from transfering from tank to tank? What would be the recommended bleach:water ratio? I have used bleach before but be careful which plants that you do this to. Vals as well as a variety of other plants that I cannot remember cannot take a bleach dip and end up melting. I mechanically remove as much as i can and then do a 1:25 bleach to tap water solution and leave it in there for 2-3 minutes. After, I quarantine in a bucket that has twice the recommended amount of seachem prime and leave for 2- hours and then another bucket with just the recommended dose for another hour. I hope this answers your question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 1 hour ago, JuanSan said: I have used bleach before but be careful which plants that you do this to. Vals as well as a variety of other plants that I cannot remember cannot take a bleach dip and end up melting. I mechanically remove as much as i can and then do a 1:25 bleach to tap water solution and leave it in there for 2-3 minutes. After, I quarantine in a bucket that has twice the recommended amount of seachem prime and leave for 2- hours and then another bucket with just the recommended dose for another hour. I hope this answers your question. I only have anubias, Java ferns, and different type of buces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanSan Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 21 hours ago, Stitch said: I only have anubias, Java ferns, and different type of buces. All of those are hardy so three minutes would be fine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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