Vshrimp Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 So I'm on a quest to make some red steels. Ive read around and asked about how blue steels were made and it seems like they're a cross between TT and BB. From there, back crossing to BB again over generations to get BS. So my guess in making Red Steels is using a RB instead of BB. Lucky for me I have RB and TT that I crossed recently and the berried female released the shrimplets a few days ago. These F1 tibees/tangtais I plan on crossing back to the RB. Hopefully, my theory is correct on using RB instead BB to get RS. Wish me luck Oh...heres a few pics of the shrimplets. Maurice, mayphly, svetilda and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETAquarium Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 Good looking offspring, you are on the right track. I definitely would like to see some Red Steels with intense red coloration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vshrimp Posted August 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 Good looking offspring, you are on the right track. I definitely would like to see some Red Steels with intense red coloration. Thanks. Hopefully this project turns out nicely. I've only seen very few US breed Steel Blues on FB but never seen anyone come up with Reds yet. Closes I've probably seen is maybe Mayphlys red taitibees?? We all know his awesome pics Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayphly Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 They're definitely harder to come by than blue steel.For me working out the full white body coverage is the biggest challenge. Good luck with your project! Hope to see some soon! Vshrimp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vshrimp Posted September 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Heres an update. Seems like the shrimps lost the reddish color and look like any other F1 tangtais. Like any young shrimplet you can never predict how they will look once they get older lol. Cant wait to cross back to RB for F2 batch. mayphly, Sathish, Aquarium Creation and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Thank you for keeping us updated. Vshrimp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Thanks for the update! Sounds like you are on the right track. The original breeder of steels said (from memory) selected shadows x tangerine tiger. It might be rr/wr too. Either way the f2 and f3 should start to show results. Can't wait to see where this goes ?? Shrimp Life and Vshrimp 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vshrimp Posted October 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2016 So today the female F1 tangtais finally are berried by a RB and berried with a large load. Cant wait to see the shtimplets in a month Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk Mr. F, Shrimp Life, Saul and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vshrimp Posted December 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 A couple days ago. The F1 female tangtai finally dropped her eggs and to my surprise. All the shrimplets are either ghost looking with white stripes or blue with white stripes. No single red in any shrimplets since I used RB cross TT. Funny how shrimp genes work. Lolhttps://vimeo.com/194431930Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk Sathish, mikehawkrocs, Mr. F and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. F Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Lovely! Serrata hybrids are great cuz there's so much genetic variability!!! Tibee Inc and Vshrimp 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88888888 Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 Any luck getting some red in those clear or blue ones since then? After reading this thread got me really curious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vshrimp Posted January 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 Any luck getting some red in those clear or blue ones since then? After reading this thread got me really curious So far there hasnt been anything yet but I believe i did create blue steels instead from this project lol. 88888888, mayphly, Mr. F and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88888888 Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 wow. they look awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vshrimp Posted January 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 Maybe theres hope in my red steel project. Lol acdc07, noobie101, Shrimp Life and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vshrimp Posted February 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2017 Updated pics of the blues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brocknorman Posted February 6, 2017 Report Share Posted February 6, 2017 Updated pics of the blues. Those look close to BSSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Vshrimp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimp Life Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 They are absolutely beautiful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vshrimp Posted February 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 Thank you guys. Tbh i didnt think it was going to be this easy to get them so fastSent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plamski Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 Awesome blues. I did the same 2 years ago. TT with RB coming from WR. No any luck even in F3 .I crossed F1 tangtais female with male RB the same with F2 tangtais. End of last year i did some changes. i crossed F2 and F3 female tangtais with RB BUT coming from German red pintos instead of WR. Got F4 2 months ago. Color variation of the of springs is enormous . Red fancy,black fancy all kind of ghosts, blue bolts with very nice smooth deep color, red and black like a zebra pinto but only 2-3 very tiny white stripes next to the tail. Shrimplets are around 1/4" . Will try to take some pictures this weekend. Hopefully will find time to do it. ibebian, Vshrimp and Uriel RT 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vshrimp Posted February 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 Awesome blues. I did the same 2 years ago. TT with RB coming from WR. No any luck even in F3 .I crossed F1 tangtais female with male RB the same with F2 tangtais. End of last year i did some changes. i crossed F2 and F3 female tangtais with RB BUT coming from German red pintos instead of WR. Got F4 2 months ago. Color variation of the of springs is enormous . Red fancy,black fancy all kind of ghosts, blue bolts with very nice smooth deep color, red and black like a zebra pinto but only 2-3 very tiny white stripes next to the tail. Shrimplets are around 1/4" . Will try to take some pictures this weekend. Hopefully will find time to do it.Your F4's sound just about right with what I'm getting currently. Everything you got except I'm getting jelly colored zebra pintos. May possibly turn black later since we all know they don't stay that color long. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk Mr. F 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayphly Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 a while back I mixed some red pintos with my most red taitibee and I got a lot of different patterns including some f1 red steel. The first pic is f1 red steel. The second pic is the best looking one I have at the moment. I recently got some babies that look like they have potential. The last 2 pics shows what all came from the crossing Mr. F and ibebian 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vshrimp Posted February 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 a while back I mixed some red pintos with my most red taitibee and I got a lot of different patterns including some f1 red steel. The first pic is f1 red steel. The second pic is the best looking one I have at the moment. I recently got some babies that look like they have potential. The last 2 pics shows what all came from the crossing I was thinking about using one of the red bolt taitibee that i breed from your red pintos to cross back to see what can come out of the mix. I'm assuming the out come will be similar. BTW nice shrimps Uriel RT and mayphly 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plamski Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 Thanks. Looks like you are only one generation away from a lot of red steels babies. I think we have to stay away of introducing more pinto genes to the project. They have dominant genes and we might step back of what we are trying to achieve. Vshrimp and mayphly 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uriel RT Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 I agree with Plamski, Introducing advanced lines may revert back or even throw a full arrange of different types of TIbees, IF you stick to your Originals breeders they will eventually start throwing Red bolts that's assuming you know exactly where the red Bolts and tangtais come from and what genes are involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uriel RT Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 In my mix tank I'm Getting Fancy Tigers and some all red that I assume could be Red auratai , Extreme red and Black TBs, Pintos, TBs and some other odds, This tank has only had Auratai X TBs and 1 Mischling female. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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