Duff0712 Posted July 15, 2014 Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 So I am looking into getting Amazonia soil for my upcoming tank project however based on the price I don't want to use too much of it. I was wondering if using a base of organic miracle gro potting mix (which I've used before) and organic peat moss (used but not in substrate) and having a Amazonia topper would be enough to keep my ph low enough for TB's? I have always liked planted tanks and I figure the peat will help keep the ph lower with the use of less Amazonia. I plan on getting a ro unit before this project and remineralizing the water. Think it would work? -Duffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenteam Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 If you plan on investing on TB's there is no need to skimp on the substrate. I would personally just get enough ADA to do the job since it's stable. Risking it with expensive shrimp is just not worth it specially if you plan on paying $17-20 per shrimp. How big is the tank you plan on using? I know 9-10L bag will do the job for a 20L and a 3L bag is plenty for a 5g. Puddles and High5's 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff0712 Posted July 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 I will have a 12g and a couple 5's. I figured Ada was the way to go, just hoping I could save some money but still have quality haha. Thanks -Duffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High5's Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Fyi the 9l bag of Amazonia are out of stock on the ada usa site. Just went to snag a few bag's and out of stock = [ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff0712 Posted July 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Yeah saw that hopefully they will be back in stock in the next month. -Duffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High5's Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 I wish we had more soil choices in the USA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OblongShrimp Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Have any of you heard of what the best shrimp soils are that are out there? When I move in about a year I will look into bringing in substrates. The problem is just the volume and storage issue. I would need to buy a pallet rack of them to make it economical I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High5's Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Honestly if you brought some in it be gone as soon as you get it. So why not on preorder you? Get enough orders to get a pallet when it get's here ship it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtletanks91 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 I hear ista shrimp soil is a very very good soil to use. Yu crs center http://www.yu-crscenter.com uses control soil for all there farm and personal tanks, he said it's better than Ada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnemenoi Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Brightwell Aquatics Rio Escuro is a great alternative, I think I heard they went back into producing it. Its a bit pricey as well, but acted almost exactly like ADA soils Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High5's Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Lowkey's breeder soil can last longer than 24 months I'd like to try it. That would be cool If they put Brightwell Aquatic's Rio Escuro back on the market. I have a bag of up aqua shrimp sand that I want to try out it's really pricey 20$ for 4 pounds. The new Fluval stratum so far is doing it's job and I have no complaint's , as far as price to proven performance ADA is pretty much king. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 I have up sand and I really like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High5's Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 I've heard it's good stuff maybe i'll use it in a tener with some cbs. Going to go with ADA Amazonia for my tibee project because of the proven track record, once I get babies i'll try other substrates for experiments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbarbee54 Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 The problem is getting the us fish and wild life to approve others and I have heard it takes a while to get them approved. I hear the US ag dept gets involved.... There are ones like benibachi, borneo wild, Ellen wang and several types out there. But even breeders in Taiwan and Japan use ada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtletanks91 Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 I want to try the ista soil and control soil. But I'm afraid to leave Ada because it works so well. On one of my future breeding projects I plan to get a wild pair of apistos (yes Bryce even though we talked about this) and use Ada that buffered lower than 6.4 and try to breed them to a line breeding and bring a different color out than ones on the market, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Nothing wrong with a pair of wilds, dude. I just want fish collectors in the field to be smart about getting them and not strip them all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtletanks91 Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Haha I understand that my friend. Like I said before I would hate to be pulled from my home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff0712 Posted July 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 For the Amazonia should I be using the normal type or the powder type? I could see a smaller granule (powder) being good for shrimp to move around but I'm not too familiar with either -Duffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtletanks91 Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 I like the regular. The small may be too light and het pushed around ib the flow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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